Brett Favre: Top 5 QB?

Chuck says he ain't, and Ben says he is. I side with Chuck.

The point of football is to win. In football, the QB is the most important position. Thus, if football teams win, they almost certainly win because of, and not in spite of, the QB. So, good measures of QB excellence should be win percentage, playoff win percentage, and number of Super Bowl wins.

Consider these stats I found at Bill Simmons: Super Bowl diary - ESPN:

"Montana, playoffs: 16-7
Brady, playoffs: 14-4
Elway, playoffs: 14-8
Favre, playoffs: 13-11
Warner, playoffs: 9-4
Manning, playoffs: 9-9
Roethlisberger, playoffs: 8-2"

So, Favre isn't even in the top 5 in this list, at slightly better than .500.

I also like this ranking system, which tries to measure a QB's "value added." I told Ben that, in my opinion, Steve Young is the best QB of the modern era. Here's the top QB's according to that system. As you can see, Young is #1, Favre #15. But there are a lot of non-SB-winning QBs on the list...

Player Name  Value Career Attempts
Steve Young  7103 4149
Dan Marino  6752 8358
Joe Montana  6634 5391
Roger Staubach  5286 2911
Ken Anderson  5135 4475
Dan Fouts  5017 5604
Peyton Manning  4927 4333
Trent Green  3788 3329
Kurt Warner  3487 2340
Fran Tarkenton  3401 3445
John Elway  3155 7250
Bob Griese  3116 2491
Warren Moon  2908 6823
Jim Kelly  2885 4779
Brett Favre  2672 7612

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The Saint's pick-6: instant classic?

Watching Tracy Porter race towards the end zone, I understood that I was watching one of the Biggest Plays Ever. When he reached the Colt's 40 yard line, it was over: no one could stop him, and the Colts couldn't recover. After 57 minutes of closely-matched, methodical, nail-biting suspense - KABOOM! In an instant, the game went from a possible overtime to Cue the Fat Lady. Sure, the Colts had 3 minutes remaining to score two touchdowns, and theoretically they could have done it. They've done it before. But the way this particular game was going, clearly they would not.

Must the Saint's pick-6 be included on any legitimate Best Of football highlight reel?

Greatest American Band? and Does Neil Peart "swing"?

Late during our drive back from Bob's somewhat-imaginary 40th birthday party in DC, Chuck, Kirk and I debated which was America's Greatest Band. The basic qualifications seemed to be that it needed to be a "band," which I think meant "at least 3 people" and "playing their own musical instruments." Also, the band needed to be American, as in, from the United States of America. So, Canada was out, which DQ'd Rush. 

Chuck started it when he said that an argument could be made that Metallica was the greatest American band ever, so I invited him to make that argument. Chuck offered some criteria: number of hits, quality of albums, influence on music, overall importance, size of fan base. Because I love a good debate regardless of (or, perhaps, because of) my ignorance, I countered that, according to those criteria, a (regrettably) stronger argument could be made for Van Halen. Later, I claimed that, regardless of which of those bands were "greater," neither was as great as the Grateful Dead. We spent some more miles trying to think of a band that could reasonably be called "greater" than the Dead, but I drew a blank. REM, Bruce & the E-Street Band, Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers, the Beach Boys, Sly & the Family Stone, Aerosmith, KISS, the Doors, Guns n Roses, Nirvana, Velvet Underground. I forget how the Ramones made out. The Eagles came up. Chuck made a case for CCR, and a more impassioned case for the Byrds. I don't recall Kirk taking a stand on the issue. No one mentioned Phish or Journey. But Parliament came up, and we didn't really know how to handle that one. 

Also, Chuck dropped the following bombshell, and stuck to it despite strong resistance from Kirk and me, especially me: Neil Peart is not a great drummer. I told him to take it back, and questioned his sanity. I think all Kirk said to Chuck was, "Oh, c'mon." Chuck's argument was that technical prowess does not equal greatness. He concedes that Peart is a technical master, but goes on to claim that technical mastery is all Peart has; he does not, in addition, also "swing." We listened to Rush, loudly, all the way from the freeway in Indy to Kirk's house. I thought it was swinging, but who's to say?

Palin: Detain Me, Baby, Detain Me!

Palin Responds to ‘Run, Sarah, Run’ - NYTimes.com

Should Sarah Palin be detained at Guantanamo? Consider two quotes from her Tea Party speech.

This:

“America is ready for another revolution!” she told the crowd, prompting the first of several standing ovations.

And this:

“We’re at war and these are acts of war that these terrorists are committing and we need to treat them differently,” she said. “I don’t think terrorists are worthy of rights that people like my son fight and are willing to die for.”

So, if a revolution is an act of war, and Palin is inciting a revolution, then she is not worthy of rights. Discuss.

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